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No, No, No, No

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MPs failed to reach any consensus on how they wanted to proceed with Brexit following the results of the “indicative” votes with none of the options reaching a majority (again).

4 of the suggested motions were selected by the Speaker for debate and the results of the voting was as follows:

(C) Customs Union – Ayes 273 Noes 276

(D) Common Market 2.0 – Ayes 261 Noes 282

(E) Confirmatory public vote – Ayes 280 Noes 292

(G) Parliamentary Supremacy – Ayes 191 Noes 292


Interesting commments:

Ian Blackford (SNP)

…It is crystal clear to us from Scotland that our votes in this House are disrespected…

(Hmm, and 17.4 million voters … )

Vince Cable (LD)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. It is even clearer than it was the last time we had indicative votes that one compromise option has substantial support. There is the largest number of votes in the House for a people’s vote—larger than last time. Is it not possible to combine the two and therefore find a way forward through consensus?

(Strange logic in the House of Commons when there are even more votes that say NO to this idea. One could also argue that the PM Withdrawal Deal had more votes (286) than any of the indicative votes )

Indicative Votes (Again) 1st April 2019

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So having debated a range of motions last week, after taking over the business of the house, and failing to reach a majority decision to do ANYTHING they’re at it again. Today the next round of Indicative Votes take place using the same motions as used previously.

In brief, the ones selected for votes are:

(c) Customs Union

This would be a BAD deal for the UK but a GOOD deal for the EU!

That this House instructs the Government to:

(1) ensure that any Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration negotiated with the EU must include, as a minimum, a commitment to negotiate a permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU;

(2) enshrine this objective in primary legislation.

(d) Common Market 2.0

(1) directs Her Majesty’s Government to –

(i) renegotiate the framework for the future relationship laid before the House on Monday 11 March 2019 with the title ‘Political Declaration setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom’ to provide that, on the conclusion of the Implementation Period and no later than 31 December 2020, the United Kingdom shall –

(a) accede to the European Free Trade Association (Efta) having negotiated a derogation from Article 56(3) of the Efta Agreement to allow UK participation in a comprehensive customs arrangement with the European Union,

(b) enter the Efta Pillar of the European Economic Area (EEA) and thereby render operational the United Kingdom’s continuing status as a party to the EEA Agreement and continuing participation in the Single Market,

(c) agree relevant protocols relating to frictionless agri-food trade across the UK/EU border,

(d) enter a comprehensive customs arrangement including a common external tariff, alignment with the Union Customs Code and an agreement on commercial policy, and which includes a UK say on future EU trade deals, at least until alternative arrangements that maintain frictionless trade with the European Union and no hard border on the island of Ireland have been agreed with the European Union,

(ii) negotiate with the EU a legally binding Joint Instrument that confirms that, in accordance with Article 2 of the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland of the Withdrawal Agreement, the implementation of all the provisions of paragraph 1 (i) of this motion would cause the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland to be superseded in full;

(2) resolves to make support for the forthcoming European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill conditional upon the inclusion of provisions for a Political Declaration revised in accordance with the provisions of this motion to be the legally binding negotiating mandate for Her Majesty’s Government in the forthcoming negotiation of the future relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union.

(e) Confirmatory public vote

Also known as another referendum – but aren’t we still waiting for the result of the previous referendum to be implemented ?

That this House will not allow in this Parliament the implementation and ratification of any withdrawal agreement and any framework for the future relationship unless and until they have been approved by the people of the United Kingdom in a confirmatory public vote.

(g) Parliamentary Supremacy

aka Political Shenanigans

(1) If, at midday on the second last Day before exit day, the condition specified in section 13(1)(d) of the Act (the passing of legislation approving a withdrawal agreement) is not satisfied, Her Majesty’s Government must immediately seek the agreement of the European Council under Article 50(3) of the Treaty to extend the date upon which the Treaties shall cease to apply to the United Kingdom;

(2) If, at midday on the last Day before exit day, no agreement has been reached (pursuant to (1) above) to extend the date upon which the Treaties shall cease to apply to the United Kingdom, Her Majesty’s Government must immediately put a motion to the House of Commons asking it to approve ‘No Deal’;

(3) If the House does not approve the motion at (2) above, Her Majesty’s Government must immediately ensure that the notice given to the European Council under Article 50 of the United Kingdom’s intention to withdraw from the European Union is revoked in accordance with United Kingdom and European law;

(4) If the United Kingdom’s notice under Article 50 is revoked pursuant to (3) above a Minister of Her Majesty’s Government shall cause an inquiry to be held under the Inquiries Act 2005 into the question whether a model of a future relationship with the European Union likely to be acceptable to the European Union is likely to have majority support in the United Kingdom;

(5) If there is, a referendum shall be held on the question whether to trigger Article 50 and renegotiate that model;

(6) The Inquiry under paragraph (4) shall start within three months of the revocation; and

(7) References in this Motion to “Days” are to House of Commons sitting days; references to “exit day” are references to exit day as defined in the Act; references to the Act are to The European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018; and references to the Treaty are to the Treaty on European Union.

No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No

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MPs failed to reach any consensus on how they wanted to proceed with Brexit following the results of the “indicative” votes with none of the options reaching a majority.

8 of the suggested motions were selected by the Speaker for debate and the results of the voting was as follows:

(B) No Deal – Ayes 160 Noes 400

(D) Common Market 2.0 – Ayes 160 Noes 400

(H) EFTA and EEA – Ayes 65 Noes 377

(J) Customs Union – Ayes 264 Noes 272

(K) Labour’s Alternative Plan – Ayes 237 Noes 307

(L) Revocation to avoid no deal – Ayes 184 Noes 293

(M) Confirmatory Public Vote – Ayes 268 Noes 295

(O) Contingent Preferential Arrangements – Ayes 139 Noes 422

Full Details of the Motions

Strange Day in Parliament 27 March 2019

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More shenanigans in the UK Parliament today (27 March 2019) where the business of the house has been disrupted to satisfy an earlier motion that allows MPs to discuss and vote on a number of their own options in respect of Brexit. This is intended to discover if there is any common ground amongst MPs on how to handle Brexit having already wasted 727 days since they supported the invocation of Article 50 (by 494 votes to 122) to leave the EU. Today, the Government takes a back seat.

The Order of Business for today is contained in the document at

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmagenda/OP190327.pdf

Debate will commence with discussion of the Business of the House motion created by Oliver Letwin and others. It is allowed to be debated up until 15:00 when it will be put to a vote. It includes a further attempt to wrest control of the business of the house on Monday 1st April (April Fools day).

A number of amendments have been suggested for this motion and the Speaker will select which of these are accepted for debate/vote. All the details are available in the Order Paper.

The document also includes a list of suggestions by MPs on how to proceed given that we are a couple of days away from the original date for leaving and slightly over 2 weeks from an agreed extension date. I’ve included a list of these (16) options here and the full details of each are outlined in the attached Order Paper (pdf) .

Motions/(Indicative Votes)

  • (A) Constitutional and accountable government
  • (B) No deal
  • (C) Unilateral right of exit from backstop
  • (D) Common market 2.0
  • (E) Respect the referendum result
  • (F) Participation in a customs union
  • (G) Revocation instead of no deal
  • (H) EFTA and EEA
  • (I) Consent of devolved institutions
  • (J) Customs union
  • (K) Labour’s alternative plan
  • (L) Revocation to avoid no deal
  • (M) Confirmatory public vote
  • (N) Malthouse compromise plan A
  • (O) Contingent preferential arrangements
  • (P) Contingent reciprocal arrangements

Voting on motions selected by the Speaker will take place in accordance with the Business of the House motion, if it is agreed to.

Update: items marked in RED are those selected by the Speaker

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